The tricky bit is how you guys have redefined what xenophobia/sexism/racism/transphobia means. I don’t mind catching a ban, but at least get the reason right.
I mean they never even got banned from .ml, but here’s a sample of other places they’ve been kicked out of, so this isn’t really making the case for authoritarian mods on .ml tbh
I remember that. Yeah, some hexbear users were saying that all white people should be killed. Apparently saying “no one should be killed for the color of their skin” is racism. Or at least according to their definition of racism.
Question: When people say ‘death to America’ do you interpret that as the systematic killing of everyone that lives in America or are you able to appreciate that as a structural critique and imperative?
Because what was described before you linked that was “kill all the whites” and what is actually there is “death to the whites”
Are you not able to see the difference? What do you think ‘whiteness’ is? Are you under the impression that it’s a race? Before you answer that, come up with an answer to my follow up question: How did the Irish become white? Gene splicing?
I appreciate the clarifying question, I actually have an Iranian friend that explained to me that in Farsi, that the slogan ‘Marg Bar Ameriki’ or ‘Death to America’ (farsi does not contain ‘down with xyz’ in it, ‘death to xyz’ is the linguistic equivalent), it’s is not commonly intended as a literal death threat, but an expression of political opposition, or opposition to a state of affairs.
One might say ‘death to traffic’ for example, that doesn’t mean you want to literally kill everyone blocking your car or whatever, it’s more a statement of exasperation and opposition. As a political slogan it isn’t intending to mean death to Americans, but to the American government. It does sounds edgy in an english translation though.
To your question, ‘white’ is not a race, it’s more a self-identification and class signifier. Non-white ethnicities (Irish, Italians, etc) have a long history of assimilating as ‘white’ by becoming cops, landlords, and other active participants in American settlement/ westward expansion. That’s not to say there aren’t poor people who also identify as white, but if they are ever going to really have solidarity with other nonwhite people they really need to kill that white settler in their head.
I read ‘death to whites’ in this context as a poster complaining about, and expressing opposition to the bias in narratives/social media platforms - the thread was originally someone venting about racist comments on reddit, and white lemmmy users felt the need to get defensive about the most surface level reading.
For reference I said ‘death to america’ just the other day in a reply to a post about how florida prisons are going to be forcibly detransitioning prisoners, because it’s a fucked up situation and at this point I don’t see a way to really fix the bigger problems at play without some fundamental changes to what ‘America’ is.
Dude, chill. I got banned from hexbear for literally the exact same reason. Who cares? Let them run their own instance the way they want. They’re blocked and you don’t have to look at them anymore.
Authoritarian racists exist and want to murder you, welcome to planet earth. First day?
A reminder why under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered by the working class.
The tricky bit is how you guys have redefined what xenophobia/sexism/racism/transphobia means. I don’t mind catching a ban, but at least get the reason right.
You haven’t even had any mod action taken against you on lemmy.ml from what I can tell.
Plenty of other instances that you do use have banned you for racism and trolling though.
This one from hexbear was really funny:
You are unwittingly making their point for them. Hilarious!
Do you actually have any points or thoughts or is it all just mugging to the audience with you?
I mean they never even got banned from .ml, but here’s a sample of other places they’ve been kicked out of, so this isn’t really making the case for authoritarian mods on .ml tbh
I remember that. Yeah, some hexbear users were saying that all white people should be killed. Apparently saying “no one should be killed for the color of their skin” is racism. Or at least according to their definition of racism.
I am so glad I blocked their instance.
link?
https://lemmy.ml/comment/7766904
Question: When people say ‘death to America’ do you interpret that as the systematic killing of everyone that lives in America or are you able to appreciate that as a structural critique and imperative?
Because what was described before you linked that was “kill all the whites” and what is actually there is “death to the whites”
Are you not able to see the difference? What do you think ‘whiteness’ is? Are you under the impression that it’s a race? Before you answer that, come up with an answer to my follow up question: How did the Irish become white? Gene splicing?
I appreciate the clarifying question, I actually have an Iranian friend that explained to me that in Farsi, that the slogan ‘Marg Bar Ameriki’ or ‘Death to America’ (farsi does not contain ‘down with xyz’ in it, ‘death to xyz’ is the linguistic equivalent), it’s is not commonly intended as a literal death threat, but an expression of political opposition, or opposition to a state of affairs.
One might say ‘death to traffic’ for example, that doesn’t mean you want to literally kill everyone blocking your car or whatever, it’s more a statement of exasperation and opposition. As a political slogan it isn’t intending to mean death to Americans, but to the American government. It does sounds edgy in an english translation though.
To your question, ‘white’ is not a race, it’s more a self-identification and class signifier. Non-white ethnicities (Irish, Italians, etc) have a long history of assimilating as ‘white’ by becoming cops, landlords, and other active participants in American settlement/ westward expansion. That’s not to say there aren’t poor people who also identify as white, but if they are ever going to really have solidarity with other nonwhite people they really need to kill that white settler in their head.
I read ‘death to whites’ in this context as a poster complaining about, and expressing opposition to the bias in narratives/social media platforms - the thread was originally someone venting about racist comments on reddit, and white lemmmy users felt the need to get defensive about the most surface level reading.
For reference I said ‘death to america’ just the other day in a reply to a post about how florida prisons are going to be forcibly detransitioning prisoners, because it’s a fucked up situation and at this point I don’t see a way to really fix the bigger problems at play without some fundamental changes to what ‘America’ is.
Dude, chill. I got banned from hexbear for literally the exact same reason. Who cares? Let them run their own instance the way they want. They’re blocked and you don’t have to look at them anymore.
Authoritarian racists exist and want to murder you, welcome to planet earth. First day?
A reminder why under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered by the working class.
Nailed it.