Lol no, I mean it would be a bubble if it didn’t provide anything useful, or transformative, but that’s far from the truth.
Like it or not, even LLMs have been found to help in health treatments, mental support , workplace efficiency and so on
AI is here to stay, it’s basically the next industrial revolution
Why do people care about powerful GPUs? Just use whatever works.
Gaming aside, powerful GPUs are useful for a lot of work like 3D graphics, video editing, neural networks, and a lot of stuff i don’t know about
Aw, I was hoping the whole thing would rhyme after the first line.
How much if a discount are you expecting to start gaming on a 30k card with no video output?
Not for gaming, for running AI open source models and other AI shenanigans. My 4080 Super has been filling my gaming needs and will for years to come, but it’s not enough for my AI interests lol
The most I can get out of this 4080 is running a ~7B param model, but I want to run cooler shit like that new open source DeepSeek v3 that dropped the other day.
So you’re waiting for the AI bubble to burst because you can’t wait to run all the cool new AI models?
Yea, the underlying tech is what interests me and I have a few potential use cases. Use cases that I would never entrust a random company with. For example, the concept of MS recall is cool, I’d never trust Microshits implementation though. But an open source local version that I’m in control of all the security implementations? Hell yea lol
That’s the problem. If the use case is super cool, and 99% of people have no knowledge (or motivation) to set it up for themselves, the online services will keep existing, and the bubble won’t really burst.
Even if some single companies fail (and they will, there some truly horrendous ideas getting funding), the big players will buy the GPUs wholesale before they hit ebay.
Nuclear energy could also be a weird side effect of the bubble.
Why the hell would you want to buy a used gpu that’s been burnt through its lifespan by an AI or crypto bro?
That’s a bad, horrible idea.
Cheap is cheap
For a lemon? Cheap is still too expensive.
Won’t the price of all gpus go down when they’re not all being snatched up for mining?
Absolutely! New ones will be much cheaper, and that’ll be awesome.
But the used gpu market has been trash since crypto mining became a thing. Not worth the money to buy something that’s been worked to within an inch of its EOL.
I’ll never buy used tires, underwear or gpus haha
You don’t want a used GPU that’s been running overclocked for years on end bro.
Multiple outlets including LTT and Gamers Nexus have debunked this.
The only thing you may have to do if you notice unusual performance is reapply thermal paste to the GPU, and that’s only because most thermal paste will dry out after years of sitting around or being used
The price of gpus would go down as there would be less demand.
The problem is that the enterprise level cards can’t really perform at the consumer market level nor are they designed for it. Many don’t even have video outputs.
I believe it is likely that there will be a burst at some point, just as with the dot-com burst.
But I think many people wrongly think that it will be the end of or a major setback for AI.
I see no reason why in twenty years AI won’t be as prevalent as “dot-com’s” are now.
There may be a dip in prices for a bit, but since covid, more companies have realized they can get away with manufacturing fewer units and selling them for a higher price.
I’ll buy a dozen and build my own AI farm tyvm.
it would be amazing to have several models running and have them interact together for some real immersive DnD rp.
GPU prices are gonna get cheaper, annnnyyyy day now folks, any day now
That’s what I’m saying since 2020, people don’t have patience any more.
I dumped my old af GPU for more than I paid for it because people have no chill.
I will sell my Polaris for a ridiculous amount of money. I will sell my Polaris for a ridiculous amount of money. I will sell my Polaris for a ridiculous amount of money.
Manifesting 🙏🙏🙏🙏
You’re more likely to see the college bubble burst before AI. Colleges are struggling with low admissions.
Unfortunately, this time around the majority of AI build up are GPUs that are likely difficult to accomodate in a random build.
If you want a GPU for graphics, well, many of them don’t even have video ports.
If your use case doesn’t need those, well, you might not be able to reasonably power and cool the sorts of chips that are being bought up.
The latest wrinkle is that a lot of that overbuying is likely to go towards Grace Blackwell, which is a standalone unit. Ironically despite being a product built around a GPU but needing a video port, their video port is driven by a non-nvidia chip.
gaming can work on one GPU and display on another, thunderbolt egpus do it all the time.
My use case is for my own AI plans as well as some other stuff like mass transcoding 200TB+ of…“Linux ISOs” lol. I already have power/cooling taken care of for the other servers I’m running
I’ve already got my gaming needs satisfied for years to come (probably)
When the “Web” bubble burst, were we left without websites? No.
When the AI bubble bursts, it isn’t going away either. It replaces too much labor. Training the AI models is expensive, but running them isn’t. Especially on Lemmy, too many dullards don’t understand why AI is so popular; it’s because it’s replacing your job - or allowing 1 person to do the jobs of 10.
True, but many MANY companies went under during the dot com burst and made server hardware cheaper on the secondary market for a while
Same will happen with the AI bubble, there will undoubtedly be a few survivors, but many won’t. There will be dead startups everywhere.
When the AI bubble bursts, it isn’t going away either. It replaces too much labor.
The claimed amount of labour it could potentially replace is in fact part of the bubble.
The fact that you can claim this unironically, speaks volumes of your ignorance.
https://huggingface.co/models – Check out all of the things that various AI models can do. They aren’t just LLMs and Diffusors.
I never said that they can’t serve a function, just that corporations like openai have a vested interest inflating their potential impact on the job market.
