God our government is so fucking useless for anything that might actually help people.
This isn’t “our government” these are the oligarch’s meatbags purchased for surprisingly low dollar amounts. These men (and women that silently stand next to them until they are told they are allowed to speak) are cowards and traitors. They are not “our government”
Your post is the right energy, wrong message.
One could go for a hundred years and not touch this shit. But nah. Some dirtbag judge asshole actively working to fuck us all over.
this is a direct consequence of the Supreme Court overturning the Chevron deference back in June. the appeals court has to apply the law. so you know who to blame.
expect more cases like this in coming years…
Sarcastically speaking, if they want white only public bathrooms, that would be interesting. On the one hand people gave up their lives for us to have the freedom to go in the same places as white people. On the other hand… Its public restrooms!
God our government is so fucking useless for anything that might actually help people.
More specifically: gop.gov
Obama installed Apeshit Pie. They’re all to blame.
Some more than others. Some much more than others.
It’s currently not fill with people who want to help “prople”. It currently is setup to help corporate America only at this point. At the expense of your rights.
I believe we call them Corporate-Americans these days, they’re legally people.
You know, in Germany there are some (we call them Reichsbürger ~ Empire Citizens) that believe the allied installed a puppet government in Germany and we are actually a GmbH (equivalent to US LLCs according to Wikipedia) called the Bundesrepublik Deutschland GmbH and a kind of proof should be that are ID cards are called “Personalausweis” which could be taken as Personal (eng. Employee) and Ausweis (eng. Identification).
The US basically does all of the Corpo things those conspiracy nuts see into the German government.
From the BS corp politics down to the office rumors.Sounds a lot like American sovereign citizens. SovCits believe America is a corporation that was set up on top of the Articles of Confederation, (which was the precursor to the American Constitution). They basically believe that they can refuse to do business with the “corporation” (government) and be able to break any laws they want.
It’s where the “I’m not driving, I’m traveling” memes come from, because the articles of confederation mentioned a right to freely travel. So the SovCits think they can drive without a valid license or vehicle registration, which leads to lots of police dashcam footage of SovCits getting tased during traffic stops when they become irate or try to flee.
Basically the US equivalent.
Afaik they (try to) have their own IDs, car license plates and many more things.
But they are also dangerous folks as they like to arm themselves with guns (which are obviously uncommon to have as a regular citizen).
That’s because they’re not even trying to help people, except people who can pay.
Corrupt beyond belief.
It’s by design: the rich know how easily “representatives” can be bought.
They’re going to use this for censorship.
Torproject.org. There’s absolutely no way to censor the entire internet, short of entirely disconnecting the internet.
They’re trying to ban tiktok. I’ve never used it but it’s just because it’s Chinese, social media from any other company based in any other country is just as fucked and unhealthy and unregulated in the US, but they are going to ban it specifically for its country of origin. China pills a lot of weight and the company tiktok is powerful and fighting it in court and all but it seems pretty obvious it’ll go through even under current admin watch–let alone when a direct competitor and owner of Xitter owns the White House.
While yes, you’re logistically correct it would be very difficult to shut down the whole Internet, that’s not the goal, the goal is to massively control it and enshittify it beyond your worst dreams.
Look to China and Russia for "internet"TM
I’m not one for conspiracy theories but I could see where some come from that TikTok is made to dumb down the generation and make them even more addicted than local versions (FB, IG, YT).
And with how much weight is behind Tiktok they are probably a very good entry for outside adversaries into local networks.I mean how many have installed AliExpress or WeChat on their phone? Not many have gizmo apps from China (like DJI) but TikTok? Oh boy a fuckload of people have that.
Fair point. But I just believe it goes to show that more websites need to be available on the darknet. Not because it’s a scary or bad place to be, but because it can’t be censored. Not nearly as easily, anyway. Top level domains can very easily be seized by the domain registrar or ICANN, etc. But since onion domains use keys, it’s impossible to seize them without seizing the server they run on.
The vast majority of people are woefully ill-prepared for an adversarial internet.
But they’ll call it freedom of speech. Speech someone/corp paid for of course, but Citizens United…
Corporations are just sovereign citizens.
That’s funny because the local amazon delivery contractor doesn’t have license plates on their rental delivery trucks just like SovCits. I hadn’t thought of that but yes corporations have become sovereign citizens.
Ministry of truth and all that.
Comcast going to start hiring reddit mods?
We could crowdsourse and pay Comcast tier 1 division to block reddit.
If the FCC can’t regulate anything I guess I’ll just run a high power jammer and block all cell signal in the area.
Put hundreds of them in a pretty boxes, form an LLC, get a few VCs to sign on, flip the switch, then charge a monthly fee to “open previously-inacessible service areas to cellular customers” and you’ll have a successful startup!
Hold on, GumpyDuckling… checks clipboard tsk tsk, I see here you’re not wealthy enough to effectively lobby to get us in trouble; I’m afraid that’ll be a $10,000 fine.
Wait! You will get in trouble for that. Instead you need to have an LLC that does that for Profit somehow. Then all is forgiven!
Bonus points if it involves an “app”.
It’s a privacy subscription service.
Privacy? You can’t have privacy.
It’s to block access to CSAM. Shame it blocks everything else.
Ah but technically it’s still illegal to disrupt emergency services and also leaves you liable to lawsuits.
But yeah, the FCC in particular can’t stop you from doing that.
Ahh, but you can subscribe to my private emergency services on my own frequencies which aren’t blocked, then nobody can block mine because they are the only available emergency service frequency.
The word used is “Disrupt” which implies you cannot impede access to them even if you offer an alternative method.
Call the cops then, oh wait.
Their excuse is that telecom services aren’t actually providing telecom services, but information services.
If that doesn’t make sense to you, it’s because you aren’t brain-damaged.
So… They’re responsible for the misinformation sent to my device against my will now, right?
Obviously not because our leaders need to be killed brutally where all can see what happens, but in principle?
Courted reclassified the services to remove FCC ability to regulate telecos?
Talk about bad faith behavior.
Welcome to the day and age where courts have all the power :/
This is really just a game of tech billionaires vs telecom/media billionaries
long-winded sigh
I really ought to set up that community meshnet I keep thinking about setting up…
You want Meshtastic
I’ve already got some gear and there are a few other nodes around, but basically all it is currently is an emergency backup for texting family members if the Internet and cell service go down. I’d like to start making some cooler stuff like maybe a weather/sensor station and maybe even some online stuff, but I’ve got so many half-done projects I’m hesitant to start another one lol.
You might be interested in an episode of Linux Unplugged from a few months ago that goes into Meshtastic quite nicely.
https://linuxunplugged.com/584
There’s also this link with a ton of resources for Meshtastic:
I really ought to set up that community meshnet I keep thinking about setting up…
Oh hey, I keep thinking about doing this to and hosting a website like the old days lol, but when I search about it the biggest thing that comes up is like LoRa, but ig it’s too slow for hosting internet-like services
Meshtastic is 80% geeky fun hobby, 20% preparedness, and 0% ready to facilitate anything more than simple text messages. Still neat, though.
Yeah, we’ve got some T-decks and so far it’s only been a novelty and the intended purpose is just so we can text from a decent distance if infrastructure goes down. Will probably also see some occasional use camping as a backup for our radios with a T-beam attached to a bear bag up in a tree as a relay.
Can be used to transfer data between app, like location pins in ATAK
That’s true, but from what I’ve seen they haven’t really been a standard in the nodes that folks are building.
That 0% hurts so much.
Like most large changes, it requires an act of Congress. Doing these via the executive leads to weak outcomes like this.
The thing is Congress doesn’t have time to deal with technical details. That’s why they passed a law authorizing the FCC to make exactly this kind of regulation. The conservative courts throwing everything they don’t like under the Major Questions Doctrine is just a way to make sure regulation never happens and Corporations are free to exploit people however they want. The problem here isn’t the FCC, it’s bad faith judges with the power to stop the entire government.
Regulating ISPs as a utility is a pretty big change, not simply a technical detail; it is in the purview of Congress.
Congressmen aren’t individually drafting bills, they direct their aids to draft the bills and hammer out the details. We don’t need to overhaul our system, we need congressmen to do their job rather than offloading their job to the Executive.
Edit: Said bill would direct the Executive on how to regulate them as a utility at which point small technical details, as you mention, are handled by the Executive.
Congressmen aren’t individually drafting bills, they direct their aids to draft the bills and hammer out the details
One slight point, this isn’t how they get legislative drafts. Legislative drafts come from thinktanks like Heritage, ALEC, Vote Blue, etc.
Oligarchs write legislation, and then find a congresscritter that owes them a favor. They “lobby” for it, ie they stop into the congresscritter’s office, drop the envelope with the text, drop a check for their campaign fund, and then the congresscritter gets it to pass.
ISPs are just transmitting a different kind of data on the same infrastructure backbone as the rest of our telecommunications. Don’t act like it’s some huge difference.
And they are doing their jobs, they’d have to hire exponentially more staffers to go over what was in bills or just vote the way their preferred donor says to vote. Which do you think is more likely there?
Congress has the power to delegate regulations, they used that power, and now a radical judiciary is claiming the plain text of the Constitution doesn’t mean what it clearly means.
I was surprised that it wasn’t the fifth circuit, then my shock faded: the sixth administers Ohio, Kentucky and Tennessee, as well as Michigan.
The very first thing I checked for is which circuit it was, too, haha…
Of course the Loper Bright decision is going to be used to prevent federal agencies with helping improving anything. Judges be like “You can’t rein in this corporate abuse because there’s an app for it, bro. Totally different!”
Link that isn’t behind a damn paywall.
Lol I edited the post just after posting to add in a paywall bypass link already, your instance might be having a federation delay
Is at least the California’s net neutrality law in effect?
For Californians, yes
I expect that the 2030 census is going to have us growing again
This is ridiculous how difficult it is to get this law through. Clearly it must be something good. I am 100% behind it.
The problem is that it isn’t a law, it’s a regulation.
On the one hand, the Republicans are definitely playing politics by attacking the ability of agencies to come up with regulations. But on the other, it really is just another example of how various parts of the US government have been ceding or delegating their responsibilities around willy-nilly in ways that weren’t constitutionally intended. Congress hasn’t made a declaration of war since 1942, despite all the wars the US has entered into since then. The Supreme Court was never even intended to decide the constitutionality of laws, that’s something they declared for themselves and everyone’s just gone along with it since then. The debt ceiling limit is just plain incoherent, Congress allocates money so a budget they pass should automatically override previous legislation (like the debt ceiling limit).
I don’t know what the US should do to resolve all this, but it’s getting to be quite the mess.
Setting up a Commission and giving it regulatory power is very much in the power of Congress. The Constitution literally says
Congress shall have the power … To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
So they are well within their rights to pass a law setting up the FCC to promulgate regulations based on the Telecommunications Act. They are also well within their rights to pass a law recognizing the President’s emergency military power, restraining it, and formalizing the process to declare war with different words. Both of which are things they have done. The FCC didn’t magic this shit out of nowhere, and Iraq and Afghanistan were the result of Congressional votes in favor of an AUMF, as outlined in the War Powers Act.
This idea that shit happens willy-nilly is fucking propaganda meant to normalize it so people don’t think it’s weird when a corrupt politician tries it.
So they are well within their rights to pass a law setting up the FCC to promulgate regulations based on the Telecommunications Act.
The Supreme Court apparently disagreed, both in this specific case and more generally when the Supreme Court overturned the Chevron deference doctrine. The Supreme Court basically said “if an agency is going to make a regulation it needs to be very specifically based on a law that says they can do that.” So they’re saying that Congress is going to have to pass some actual laws about net neutrality before the FCC can make regulations enforcing it. The fact that agencies have been making those regulations without laws backing them up is the problem here.
Iraq and Afghanistan were the result of Congressional votes in favor of an AUMF, as outlined in the War Powers Act.
That happened, sure. I’m saying it shouldn’t have. The US went to war without a declaration of war, which is something that should be made by Congress. By passing generic “the President can bomb whatever he wants to” legislation Congress is shirking a responsibility that’s supposed to be theirs.
If you want to have a government where the President is in charge of deciding when to go to war, go ahead and have one. By setting up a constitution that says that’s how it’s supposed to work. Don’t have a constitution that says “here’s how war is supposed to be declared” and then just go do something else instead of that.
Ahh yes the people who openly take bribes from the wealthy elite ruled that the government can not regulate the wealthy elite. I’m so surprised. Are we listening to the Fox’s opinions on gate to the chicken roost too now?
It’s in plain text for all to see. This isn’t some highly technical debate that this court was the first to see the light on. Chevron was 4 decades old and has supporting decisions from the supreme courts reaching back to st least the 1940’s. But sure, these guys saw something different suddenly. And it had nothing to do with the massive amounts of money they’ve received from billionaires.
And no. Not using the specific words, “declaration of war” doesn’t mean anything. Congress had to pass the AUMF bills the same as a declaration of war. Declaring open war was always a possibility.
I’m not making any statements here about what’s “right” or “good”, I’m just saying what is. The US government is operating in ways not intended by the constitution. At least not clearly intended. If you want to interpret that as me taking a position then it would be that they should fix their constitution. Until they do that then their government will be unstable and unpredictable.
Here’s the section again.
Congress shall have the power … To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
If they deem the regulatory power of agencies like the FCC to be necessary to carry out something in the entire list of powers I ellipsed; then it is constitutional. And no amount of “fixing” would work as long as we have a captured court ignoring the Constitution, straight up lying about it and about history.
So you’re saying that it’s the courts that are behaving incorrectly according to their role in the constitution? If so, that doesn’t change the underlying point I’m making here.
I don’t know what the US should do to resolve all this, but it’s getting to be quite the mess.
it really is just another example of how various parts of the US government have been ceding or delegating their responsibilities around willy-nilly
This is the big one. Congress has been delegating their power to the Executive for decades. Rather than meaningful law, they tell the Executive to make regulations that don’t stand the test of time. Congress needs to pass laws again, instead of delegating large swaths of their power.
I can see it being difficult to keep up with the law-writing given how much more complicated the world is now than when Congress was first established. To keep things working properly there should really be a whole lot more congressmen, Congress hasn’t been expanded in a long time and representation is starting to get pretty wonky as a result.
When you get right down to it, I think the root of the problem is just that the American system of governance is just too old. It was one of the first big democracies so it was built without any prior experience of what worked well and what didn’t, and the patches it’s had since it was established have been too minor and are too difficult to apply for it to keep up with things. But a large swath of the American public have been indoctrinated that American democracy is the “greatest in the world” and that the US constitution is a sacred document, so major changes are nigh on impossible even if American politics wasn’t in such a dysfunctionally divided state.
All in all, I’m glad not to be in their shoes right now. Though my own country (Canada) is having some political problems of its own these days they feel more resolvable than all this.
Expanding Congress won’t solve that. There’s only so many votes they can hold in a year and stuffing bills with ever more information and regulations means less and less time for a Representative or Senator to understand it, which reverts to team politics. We should absolutely expand Congress, but this isn’t a reason. Every well functioning government has non legislators promulgating regulations based off legislative guidance.
Exactly. Maybe the agencies should be joint legislative executive or something but we do need them, because I don’t want Jim fucking Jordan deciding how much lead is safe for baby food, but even worse would be for nobody to decide
comes a time when blue states just need to draw the line and flat out refuse to follow federal laws and judges until federal judges stop being corrupt.
They do it for marijuana laws but won’t treat anything else like that. I don’t understand.
Money.
Lots of potential tax revenue with cannabis.
They would if they also didn’t rely so much on federal funding
NYS pays more in federal taxes than we get in Federal dollars.
I think we’ll be ok.
most blue states send more than they receive; all they have to do is stop sending money back to the federal government and red states would go broke.
The states never see that money though. It’s directly from blue state workers’ paychecks and never passes through state owned bank accounts.
That can change pretty quickly.
You’re going to have to explain how that can change. And how it could be done quickly. Because I’ll tell you neither of those are remotely true.
The IRS can’t hunt down the current tax evading people even with state help
If state enforcement stops helping federal enforcement and the state tells everyone to stop paying their federal taxes then short of an actual invasion by the US military there’s basically jack shit the fed can do
No company is going to stop paying their withholding if they don’t want to get shut down. Don’t be daft.
You say “secede” funny.
Ppppssshhhhhhh!!! That’s not gonna happen!
2025 is off to a good start.
…is it?
Dumpster fire speedrun any%
tbf it’s not hard to convince hayseed chucklefuck trumplings that regulations which exist to protect them are a bad thing because they cost money. we had condo buildings collapsing and people dying WITH regulations.
when bridges start collapsing left and right, they’ll blame drag queens and the maga trumpistan patriots will lap it up like hogs at the trough
we had condo buildings collapsing and people dying WITH regulations.
Further proof that regulations don’t work! The Invisible
Sky DaddyHand shalt self-correct! All is right with the world! Praise be unto The Market, may its blessed Line forever Go Up.Now, let us prey.
its so scary to me what they are doing when they have not even been seated yet.
