• rayyy@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Poor, poor Mel boy. He is in dire need of mental help and adult supervision.

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    21 hours ago

    As a Jewish person I find that absolutely hilarious. For over two thousand years the foundation of Judaism has been the exact opposite. Nearly everything in the torah has been interpreted, reinterpreted, and then we fight over who has the best interpretations (of course some things can be viewed on a literal level but those are interpreted on multiple other levels as well). Also despite Christians stealing nearly everything from us Hell isn’t one of them, I have no idea where they got that (probrally the pagans).

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      17 hours ago

      Christianity is fear, and Judaism is clever loopholes. Fear you will go to hell versus you’ll get into the kingdom eventually, one way or another.

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      It’s been the same with Christianity for most of the 2000 years it has existed. Christians had so many different interpretations they have been split up into splinter groups as early as 30 years after Jesus death.

      Literalism is a pretty new concept, rougthly from the late 19th century.

      If anybody is interested about the history, I can recomend Center Place`s newest video, a progressive church that has a lot of historical and very scholary lectures about Christianity and Judaism (no preaching or converting). Their lectures playlist is a treasure. And I say this as a very much not Christian or Jewish person.

      Here is their video on Literalism

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      While my wife and I were evangelical Christians in college we attended a few Jewish events for part of a religious study class she was taking. That is definitely what stood out to me, too. While it’s difficult to really make definitive statements about Christianity as a whole because it’s so varied, the type we were familiar with from our Bible belt upbringing was definitely more about a pretty literal interpretation about everything. It was very fascinating to learn that Jewish people are much more practical about their interpretation. For context, growing up I’d say a good bit of the people in my church viewed remarrying after divorce as adultery because marriage is meant to be forever.

      One thing I remember finding fascinating was like the layers of annotations on scripture. Like people would annotate annotations with their responses and stuff.

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        20 hours ago

        The Talmud, which is basically a bunch of Rabbis arguing about what the Torah means, is almost as important as the Torah itself.

        There’s a famous phrase in Jewish culture: two Jews, three opinions.

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    22 hours ago

    Some niggling part of my brain keeps wondering if ivermectin is actually a crazy cure for cancer, could anyone break down the science for me? I have a decent understanding of molecular biology, but no idea about what ivermectin is chemically or how it would play in

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        20 hours ago

        It kills parasitic infections caused by worms. Cancer is not a parasitic infection caused by a worm. It’s like asking if a mouse trap can fix climate change. No, because they are in no way related.

        That’s not a convincing argument. It suffices to say that ivermectin was considered as a candidate for a cancer drug as early as 2018, with a proposed mechanism of action and everything. It’s not as simple as “cancer is not a parasitic infection”, because pharmacology is never this simple. That paper also mentions positive study results both in vitro and in vivo. There is also a lot of later research (search ivermectin cancer on google scholar), but it’s potentially biased by the horrifying memetic war that happened in America during the covid pandemic.

        My conclusion from ten minutes of googling is that quite possibly it’s a real weak anti-cancer drug much like the already-known ones. It’s hard to be sure of those things - we’re in an age where there’s enough research and publication bias and politics that you can’t trust individual studies1. And you can’t fully trust meta-analyses either, but I can’t even find a meta-analysis of ivermectin as used for cancer, so.

        (It’s pretty safe to say that it’s not an amazing cancer drug much better than all existing ones (like some people seem to think) - both on priors, and because if that was the case it’d be extremely obvious from all of the studies already made.)

        1 I don’t mean fraud, I mean that if a hundred teams over the globe try a study of something that doesn’t work, five of them will find p<0.05 results by pure chance and quite possibly only those teams will publish it - so until several good replications come along, it’ll look like there’s a real and well-supported effect.

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          21 hours ago

          It works similarly to the traditional bleach cure in that regard. Both are 100% effective if used properly.

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            18 hours ago

            I always like that comic, but wish he had done a bit on one of the ways we used to (maybe someone still does it somewhere? Idk) impregnate cells with DNA. Take a modified .22 bullet, load it with the DNA, and blast it at cells.

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      Just like Joe he’ll admit he’s getting the same treatment any doctor would recommend, and he’ll take Ivermectin on top and when he’s better, he’ll claim it was the horse dewormer that fought the cancer.

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    3 days ago

    Mel Gibson is the kind of “Christian” that has a meltdown if anybody dares to point out that Jesus most likely didn’t have blonde hair and blue eyes.

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        20 hours ago

        Jesus: You should sell all your possessions.

        Christians: Well when Jesus spoke about the eye of a needle what he really meant was…

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          They should tell more stories of entitled spiteful dick Jesus.

          Like the time he cursed a fig tree because it didn’t have figs for him to eat, because it was out of season.

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        Roughly 2000 years after someone was nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be if we were nice to each other for a change.

        • Douglas Addams
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      2 days ago

      Dude goes to a ‘catholic’ church that he fully funds himself as he’s deeply against Vatican II, and the pope.

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    3 days ago

    The house was a non-issue since he was probably being paid enough from the performance to buy a bigger one.

  • badelf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    I’m pretty sure Joe Rogan and Mel Gibson believe that those massive fires are caused by liberal CA government.

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        2 days ago

        “DEI MADE THE WATER SYSTEM UNABLE KEEP UP” is such an obviously stupid take. There’s not enough water to put the fires out

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        3 days ago

        DEI PURPLE HAIRED LESBIAN FIRE MARSHALL!!!

        That’s what my dad told me.

        She does not have purple hair and she’s been there for 20+ years, previously holding the position of fire chief. She is well-respected by her peers.

          • glimse@lemmy.world
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            2 days ago

            Nope, but close. He’s a Drudge Report reader and a secret Fox watcher (he’ll never admit it but it’s always the last channel on their TV)

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                [edit] sorry if you got multiple notifications. My app was being weird and replying to the wrong comments

                Because my mom has a brain and hated Trump before he ran for office. She wasn’t quiet about her opinion and she’d tell at him for watching it.

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                If it was obvious he watched Fox even though he “tried” to hide it, why do you think he could keep it secret?

                He will defend anyone he likes if I say something shitty about them but he’s never once defended Alex Jones. He never really bought into the extreme conspiracies like false flags or pizza gate, either.

                He’s a conflicted man.

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                [edit] sorry if you got multiple notifications. My app was being weird and replying to the wrong comments

                A lack of tech literacy. It’s not bookmarked (therefore it doesn’t exist to him) and he stopped listening to the radio after Rush Limbaugh went off the air.

                If it was obvious he watched Fox even though he “tried” to hide it, why do you think he could keep it secret?

                He will defend anyone he likes if I say something shitty about them but he’s never once defended Alex Jones. He never really bought into the extreme conspiracies like false flags or pizza gate, either.

                He’s a conflicted man.

      • Monstrosity@lemm.ee
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        Yeah their strategy seems to be sniping out folks at the top (politically speaking) by singling them out & turning the State propaganda machine on full blast, alienating them & forcing them to defend themselves when no one else has the time or energy because, you know, everything is literally on fire.

        Pretty gross & probably a preview of the next (at least) 4 years. I hope it fails.

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    3 days ago

    “People said that Mel Gibson couldn’t play a Scotsman in Braveheart. But look at him now! An alcoholic racist.”

    • Frankie Boyle
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    Odds are great that a person set the fire regardless of climate impact. Most sources I see say that climate change is the reason for the fire, and not necessarily pointing out that it’s human influence that starts it. Climate change just helps spread the fire.

    First we need to convince dumb motherfuckers to stop setting fires or shooting fireworks in dry seasons. Also (IMO) people who set fires that cause this much damage and loss of life should be executed by being burned at the stake

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      Odds are great that a person set the fire regardless of climate impact.

      I mean, that’s kinda redundant… That’s unless you had previously thought it had been lightning on a clear day, or maybe Bambi with a Zippo.

      Unless you are proposing that we have a zero open flame policy in one of the most populated states in America… Then I really don’t see the benefit of blaming any single individual.

      People have been lighting fires in California for thousands of years, the reason they are no longer manageable is because of climate change, and because we refuse to spend the time and money on land management.

      people who set fires that cause this much damage and loss of life should be executed by being burned at the stake

      And then no one ever made a fire again and everyone clapped…

      This would do literally nothing to curtail wildfires in the future. I mean the last big one was started by an electric companies faulty equipment. Are we executing the power grid next?

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          You were the one who said we should execute people on stakes. That’s not really an invitation for a discussion.

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            Sure it is. Very direct wording and verbiage. So if and when they discover the people that set a fire that killed 25 people so far, what would be an adequate punishment?

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          Better a smartass than a dumbass.

          I don’t really know what you want to discuss with me? Imo the silliness of my response matches the silliness of your original claim.

          Anyone who believes society as a whole responds positively to outdated ideas of “justice” like capital punishment should be mocked.

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      First, there are several fires, it’s not one big one. A video cropped up showing a fire starting at the base of an Edison transmission line tower as the start of the Eaton fire. Whether that’s the cause remains to be seen. The only almost confirmed arson was the Sunset fire (Hollywood Hills).

      Even then, So Cal is on a record dry streak at the moment, with something like less than a quarter inch of rain since last May. Then the Santa Ana winds came, with a vengeance (75 mph sustained winds in some areas). When these winds come, humidity drops to near zero. All it takes is a tree knocking into a boulder, setting it loose down a hill, smacking a boulder and creating a spark that ignites already dry brush. We are already in the middle of a La Nina year (little to no precipitation), though the Santa Ana winds happen all the time, caused by high pressure in the Great Basin in northern Nevada with low pressure off the coast. Not staying climate change isn’t a root cause of the intensity of these factors, but So Cal has a history of all these conditions.

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        Since California is richer than most countries of the world and these fires happen constantly, why don’t they invest more into firefighting?

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              Literally the definition of a fire sale. Despite the fact that maybe they shouldn’t, the people in these areas have to money to rebuild almost immediately, and they absolutely will. A helping factor here is that the new homes will be built to current code spec, and will likely include improved fire defence measures (concrete siding, metal roofing, etc; a lot of the houses that went up still had wood shingle roofs that have been outlawed in CA for some time).

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          There is a large patchwork of different firefighting agencies within CA, notably city FDs, county FDs, forest FDs, hotshots, and others. However, when a fire breaks out and gets out of control, departments from all over swarm to help. When the Line fire ripped through my area back in September, we had crews from all over the country.

          The problem with these fires is that there are quite a few going at the same time at a time of year where fire fighters are laying low after the fire season, but also too that conditions prohibited flying. On top of which, more firefighters have responded but the amount of damage in the first 24 hours was the most catastrophic, in which there wasn’t time for outside agencies to respond.

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            The problem with these fires is that there are quite a few going at the same time at a time of year where fire fighters are laying low after the fire seaso

            Don’t forget physics! Multiple fires going on at the same time means multiple teams draining the water supply at the same time. There was not enough pressure left to push the water uphill even with auxiliary pumps which allowed the fire to spread.

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          They have invested a lot, but these are nightmare conditions. Strongest wind storms in a decade, and hasn’t rained in months. Nothing can be bought that can battle 100 mile an hour winds spreading fire faster than a car on a highway.

          I hindsight they could’ve maybe done more controlled fires to lessen fire fuel, but that’s an issue of planning and politics.