Oh funny an entire video made to make his gesture seem like a nazi one. Oh wait they also have a time machine and somehow travelled back almost a year to post the video. Whack! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyPSKLy5E4&t=2735s
it’s funny how he made that video explode in the algorithm. they were smart to quickly change the thumbnail too. I’m glad; it’s an awesome showdy.
Love the Cody showdy
I wonder if a bunch of pro palestianian protestors started “giving their hearts” to the people of Israel, if suddenly it would have a different meaning.
The average MAGAt is going to really confused when they find out who runs Israel.
Playing devil’s advocate, it appears Hitler doesn’t usually start with an open palm on his heart, but one perpendicular to his chest.
But sometimes he just goes straight from arms down to the salute. There’s some variability.
Anyway, this is splitting hairs to an obscene degree. You have to contort your brain to not see this as a Nazi salute, ignoring the context or not, and in any other time a public figure would have at least apologized for doing this if they weren’t impeached/dismissed/fired.
And really, I doubt Elon has studied the “proper” way to seig heil.
To the person that made this gif: thank you for your service. You had to pour over far more footage of this nonsense than anybody should ever have to.
Pore*
Thank you.
I’ve seen several people try to defend it by saying that the Nazi salute doesn’t start with your hand over your heart… Well this gif really clears things up.
Also, while I"m no physiotherapist, it looks like musk’s shoulder mobility is hindered a bit. Maybe its the suit/shoulderpads, maybe he’s just really out of shape. Which is to say that he knew that he had to get his hand up over his head to get the gesture right. It’s significantly more effort than you’d do by accident.
It’s probably just the suit jacket, those things do restrict your arm’s vertical range of movement.
I have a Jewish friend that is defending it saying that his arms were sideways and the Nazi salute is in front. I sent him this and he said… Welp, I guess it’s time to move.
What if you do it outside of the Israeli embassy as your heart goes out to the hostages?
The ADL thinks that’s fine.
Only if you’re musk, or another right wing power player. No one else is allowed.
And only because they’re marginally more likely to send as much weaponry as Israel wants, and waggle a finger less than the Dems.
If it honks like a goose and it steps like a goose, there’s not too many things it could be.
But what if he’s just imitating a goose with an outstretched neck?
You might be onto something. The capricious assholery of geese is well-known, and he’s also got that bit spot on.
I’m afraid a lot of people will
I’m one of the few users here whose not taken in by the Elon hate-train and I often find myself here fighting against a windmill defending him against baseless accusations but in this case there’s nothing to defend - that was a nazi salute.
Now, as to what he was thinking when he did that I have no idea. Maybe he still feels like that edgy 15 year old that he no longer is. In fact - kind of seems like he immediately regreted it and came up with the “my heart belongs to you” excuse. Either way, what was incredibly stupid and he should face serious reputational damage for it from his own side but probably doesn’t.
He did not regret it. He did it again a second time to the audience behind him. Stop defending him.
Don’t make excuses for the rat, he’s born into privilege and wants to keep it that way.
The bloke parades around expecting people to believe he’s a top tier gamer, being able to put in 16+ hours a day grinding at POE2 whilst being a CEO of multiple companies. All the while not being able to comprehend one of the most used interfaces on that platform.
But yeah nah, he’s a good bloke. I’m sure he’s done something good in he’s lifetime.
Elon yearns for public recognition and admiration. He tried many different approaches. Being an unhinged fascist worked best for him so far.
What excuses have I been making?
I mean, you said you hope he regrets it, I highly doubt he does or will unless there’s a reckoning somewhere down the line. He wants to be the most popular person ever, and by throwing a Nazi Salute…well he’s pretty popular with certain groups of people who have lower melanin than others, and think that that’s a great way to determine who God’s chosen people are, or whatever hookum they decide to use to validate their hate. Don’t forget, his dad owns an emerald mine, and he grew up in an apartheid state as a full citizen, and one of “means”. It’s hard to strip that kind of thinking about the world from your mind. And then there’s how badly he treats his children, publicly. You should probably rethink your even marginal support for this man who clearly wants to be President, but can’t due to not being a natural citizen.
I mean, you said you hope he regrets it
No I didn’t. I said it seemed like he immediately regreted it. I’ve also never said that I support him in any way.
You didn’t answer my question.
Or, he did a Nazi salute because, and I know this is some outside the box, crazy thinking: He’s a Nazi.
I know, right? Racist, apartheid profiteer, open supporter of racist far right parties across the world, frequent promoter & amplifier of far right wing and openly racist & anti-Semitic voices on his social media platform? The guy who just bought his way into power and has funded the rise of mask-off fascism in America? That guy is a Nazi? No way.
checks musks twitter history and his implemented moderation policies in action
Hmm if you put it like that, it seems like he only did it since he was zonked out of his mind on drugs which caused him to do a perfectly normal everyday american gesture 3 times in a row and not apologize for it at all days later.
don’t worry, he did it at work and he was fine!
Well, at least wait until it’s part of the law requiring all businesses to use it as formal greetings.
Ah, yes, the Trump salute. You raise your outstretched right arm and say “hail Trump”. This is based on the ancient roman salute and nothing else.
Salve arancium, placere dimitte nobis! …?
Haha, exactly.
He could tattoo “NAZI” on his forehead and some people will tell you that’s actually “IZVN” upside down
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“Well what about that tattoo on your chest? Doesn’t it say ‘Die Bart, die’?”
“No! That’s German for 'The Bart. The.”
Pretty sure I already watched that but can’t remember what it is. There’s a jumping thing close to it? Don’t know why I’m thinking the protagonist jumped from one side of the fence to the other using that jumpy thing (don’t remember the name of the jumpy)
Community S02E07 - Aerodynamics of Gender. Troy and Jeff find a secret trampoline owned by Joshua (who is revealed as a racist at the end of the episode). Pierce discovers it and insists he gets “double bounces” which is one of Joshua’s only rules and in doing so gets flung over the garden wall and breaks both his legs.
Wouldn’t it be Der Bart Der
That is correct. Die is the feminine pronoun.
It’s ok, Bart is a little bitch.
Nobody who speaks German could be a monster.
Having studied history and lived in Germany - this must be sarcasm, no?
As mentioned elsewhere it’s a line from a TV show. I’m not going to try to determine what type of humor it is, but the joke is that an incredibly charismatic psychopath has been trying to kill Bart, the local troublemaking kid. The psycho is claiming it’s all a misunderstanding and the kid points to him having a tattoo that says “die bart die”, which is explained as being German for “the bart the” (and yes part of the joke is likely that the German is incorrect). The cops, who the show routinely depicts as incredibly stupid, believe it and add the line “nobody who speaks German could be evil” which is meant to be a further joke about how stupid these cops are.
for the longest time I thought that line had way more to it, but nope, that’s it. it’s just a reference to Hitler.
I only thought there was more to it because classic Simpsons always had fantastic writing with multiple underlying references.
Sometimes a pie in the face gag is just a pie in the face gag.
But yeah, the joke is that people in charge of the prison system are so clueless on the nature of evil that they cannot differentiate between good and bad behavior.
Sometimes a
pierake in the face gag is just apierake in the face gag.Based
It’s a reference from The Simpsons. Sarcasm is a good explanation, though it’s probably more accurately satire
I’d call it irony. Satire is usually a more pointed critique- it would be referencing a specific situation or trope or person it wanted to lambast. So maybe a bit of satire about the US prison system? Honestly I don’t think they were trying to go there though.
The word irony has too much confusion attached to it nowadays, in part thanks to Alanis Morissette. I would say it was meant tongue in cheek.
It’s a gag line from the Simpsons
Arguing whether or not the sky is in fact blue is a deliberate distraction.
Musk is a troll.
Don’t feed the troll.
Every bit of energy and attention expended on the sieg heil is a bit of energy and attention that’s NOT being expended on any of the actions being taken and policies being enacted by Trump and the oligarchs right this moment for the direct and explicit purpose of destroying liberty and democracy in the US.
The sieg heil is performative. It’s a symbol. In and of itself, it causes no direct harm.
However, a terrifying number of the actions that Trump is actually taking - directives he’s issuing and policies he’s implementing -are causing and will cause direct and measurable harm.
They need to be the focus, and the sieg heil is a distraction from them.
And that’s not an accident. Musk is a troll.
It depends how you use the moment. I like Die Zeit’s article about it (in German, paywall can be bypassed with archive websites). They use it as on opportunity to discuss the context where it was made - an extreme right political event - and expose how mainstream media has helped normalizing nazi symbology by amplifying the gaslighting.
The sieg heil is performative. It’s a symbol. In and of itself, it causes no direct harm.
It enables and empowers nazis. A group that is known to take violent action when feeling they can.
And yes. It is a performance. To draw attention away from the meme coin. A giant grift on people and a way to bribe them.
It enables and empowers nazis. A group that is known to take violent action when feeling they can.
And as a bonus, all of those little nazi muffins that were either in jail or otherwise hampered by their earned felony are now free to go bananas, including acquiring arms stockpiles.
Numerous intelligence reports had found that those far right leaders were somewhat stifled by the J6 implications, and their organizations driven somewhat underground. Orange Caesar just took the lid off.
Musk is running the U.S. government. Dismissing someone that dangerous as just a troll is a mistake.
There’s a world of difference between “a troll” and “just a troll.” I expect you know that.
And you’ve evaded my point, so I’ll repeat it, broken down into bite-sized pieces:
The sieg heil didn’t cause direct and measurable harm in and of itself.
Meanwhile, there are many things that this administration is actively doing right this moment that are causing and will cause direct and measurable harm.
Every single bit of energy and attention spent on the sieg heil is energy and attention NOT spent on them.
That’s not an accident.
He definitely shouldn’t be dismissed and people are right to be absolutely pissed at the open nazism, but also the sieg heil is an extremely obvious distraction.
And the collective idiots here are happy to be distracted. I’ve seen at least 15 - 20 posts on All today about this. Ridiculous.
And yet here you are commenting on it. So what does that make you along with everyone else happy to distract themselves with it?
(In case you’re having trouble collecting those dots: an idiot as well.)
lol what? C’mon man. I know misery loves company, but this was a legitimately lame response. Give it another go. You can do better. Maybe crack wise about my mama?
Somehow you responded with an even lamer comment.
Ouch. My pride.
Alright man. This was fun. Stay safe out there.
Better yet, go to Germany and do it.
i want consies arrested, i agree
I might get a promotion for it at my job.
Silicone Valley?
Nope, just a factory in Magooland lol
That sounds about right, too lol
