• LengAwaits@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    I wish we’d gotten to see the rest of Lovecraft’s redemption arc.

    He died so soon after beginning to realize and acknowledge that his views about the world had been abhorrent.

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    I’ve never seen anyone try to sell horror this way, far from enough for it to be a thing.

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    The great artists are wizards, they bring us magic.

    They are insane.

    They are not like us.

    Judging them is like trees judging frogs.

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    I once read that Lovecraft went on a big antisemitic rant only to be gently reminded by his wife that she was Jewish.

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    or sharing an elevator with an Irishman.

    The New York Times calls Going Down, “Lovecraft at his spine-chilling best! An Arkham professor of antiquities steps into a lift and gets the ride of his life!”

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    The man was a neurotic anxious mess who was scared of everything around him in his time and checked into the psych ward multiple times. I guess it shows in his writings

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      Both of his parents were extremely mentally ill from syphilis. That’s why the theme of generational curse is so prominent in his work.

      As for how racist he was, You just need to know that he wrote a book where the big revelation and last sentence of the book was something along the lines of, “worst of all, she was an n-word”. The book’s name is Medusa’s coil

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        Yeah he was a homophobe and a racist for sure. But how much more than anyone else from his time. I love the themes he brings in but I think other people have done a good job of showing his ideas without the fear he had in him, Shape of water comes to mind and I think del Toro does a great job in showing those themes of the unknown and all.

        There’s a video on his (HP) work by HBomberguy which I think is really good.

        I didnt know about the reason for his generational curse… That’s pretty cool!

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          showing his ideas without the fear he had in him,

          Shadow over Innsmouth, the fish people were his fear of interracial breeding. Once you start applying the lense to his work, it becomes hard to not break the 4th wall even when he’s not spouting the N-word.

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            Yeah which is why I think “Shape of water” is a better Lovecraftian style of work than HP could ever achieve. He was a troubled scared man, who created an entire genre of horror. Hope we may never be as consumed by our fears as he was.

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          A ton more than other people of his time. Like, diehard racists told him to chill out and be less racist.

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          Personally I think Lovecraft having these issues makes him a more fascinating author to me. The fear of otherness is so prevalent in his work, it’s like looking directly into his soul

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    Most writers or artists of any kind are not as cool as you want them to be. H.P. was essentially a nerdy upper class dandy. He was horribly sheltered and coddled all his life by his mom and her sisters. He’d probably faint if he had to go out in the rain without an umbrella.

    I enjoyed his writing but you have to separate the art from the artist. Just like not all action heros are badasses, they just look like that on film.

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      The only issue with Lovrecraft and separating the art from the artist is that there’s a shit ton of bigotry in his art as well.

      I will not deny that he was a creative powerhouse with amazing ideas, but he was also a guy who wrote about big-lipped, dark-skinned savages and a cat with a name I shall not repeat.

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        Oh I was saying that people view the art created by the artist to be the artist. Like they are capable of living the lives they portray.

        Like I came across a comic series where H.P. was the protagonist and it made him out to be some edgy defender against the occult horrors he wrote about. Think I’ve seen something similar with Poe, maybe a movie? I hate that so much.

        Don’t insert those guys into those scenarios, they both would probably shit their pants and die immediately if they encountered what they wrote.

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    at my work my favorite customer ive ever talked to was a funny ass Irishman who made jokes about his ex wife
    I saw him once and never again but I’d love to ride an elevator with him, dude was funny AF in the 2 or 3 minutes I talked with him

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    Lovecraft being a neurotic mess afraid of everything is probably why his books are so good. He did a great job with filling his books with that sense of existential dread.

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    Things that freaked H. P. Lovecraft out:

    • Geometry
    • Stars
    • Cool air
    • Subways
    • Old houses
    • Corners of rooms
    • Violin music
    • Flute music
    • The very concept of dreams
    • Realistic paintings

    It would be easier to list the things that didn’t freak Howard out.