So… what’s the alternative?
Getting involved in local political action? Mutual aid? Gift economy?
That would be me if I had children
bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe WhY bOtHeR vOTiNg sLeEpY jOe memes!
Then I did nothing about it between presidential elections. Nothing. Did not lift a single goddamned finger. Four years later, I demand the party cater to me, Me, ME. An utterly useless deadweight. And smug about it.bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe
The Daddy Party comes home drunk from the party and beats you with his belt.
The Mommy Party cries in the corner, telling you there’s nothing she can do because you didn’t support her enough.
Then I did nothing about it between presidential elections.
People blink in and out of existence between elections. Nobody actually exists when they aren’t voting.
Nobody organized with their coworkers to form unions. Nobody carried for relatives that had lost work or gotten sick from the pandemic. Nobody provided care for young children or volunteered to help impoverished neighbors or mucked out homes after devastating hurricanes. Nobody went to school to get advanced degrees in fields necessary for building out green energy or modern transit or dense housing or criminal justice.
Nobody. Did. Anything.
Four years later, I demand the party cater to me, Me, ME.
When you think about it, denouncing genocide is an entirely selfish act.
Well, it would be happier if at least one side catered to voters as opposed to billionaires.
That said, it’s not the fault of only Harris and her campaign, it’s the Democratic leadership from the past 20 years that allowed it to get this bad.
Smug is such a perfect word for all the morons that decided not to vote, because Harris wasn’t able to fix a 8 decade long problem from the vice president’s desk.
Smug and stupid, because a lot of the Palestine crap posted was done by bots and saboteurs to fracture the left, and oh boy did it work.
Have you noticed how no-one is screeching about Palestine since the election?..
No, people against genocide are not bots, and liberals have not ever been the left. You people love genocide until it might affect you, you’re not the left.
And just because you were banned from spaces because you were pro genocide, doesn’t mean anyone has stopped talking about Palestine.
Yep. It was pretty wild that some people actually fell for the Palestine argument. That was only really an issue for a very small minority of the left. Most average Americans couldn’t find it on a map, much less a reason to give a shit about it.
Ultimately, it wasn’t even necessary to try and fracture the left with the Palestine argument. It was already fractured enough that she never stood a chance.
Even in a fairly normal race, it’s silly to think voters would care more about people half a world away, rather than the issues they’re dealing with themselves like the high cost of living, housing shortages, etc.
.world banned all the criticism
After it would do any good at all, mind you. Good Job Mods? You saved democracy?
If you’ve never received thousands of downvotes for stating a boring position, are you even alive?
Hey now, give me credit:
I also texted them to conservative family members from burner numbers!
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The revolution will not be hosted on the fediverse.
You seriously think it’s on reddit or Twitter???
Just kidding, join your local protest and mutual aid group! See you on the street!
The kids of parents who actually tried to fight to give them a decent future and world to live in:
“My parents died in prison. They committed suicide in their cells by shooting themselves in the back of their heads somehow.”
“Not have you, you’re welcome”
As an aside, I like how the intention of the original poster aged like milk. No one sees “The Great War” as great by those who survived it and by the future. It is not talked about positively in the same way as Napoleonic wars or the Second World War (except if you were an Axis soldier or civilian victim of war crimes of course).
Stop glorifying wars they all suck
This is the best definition of war I’ve heard:
Big wigs know each other and can’t get along. Then they send people who don’t know each other to kill each other. Big wigs lives are never under threat.
Not trying to glorify wars, but what I’m saying is that some wars have a purpose or cause at least. Like the Napoleonic wars is about new type of government under new found liberal values versus the old system of absolute monarchy that values stability and familiarity. The current war in Ukraine is about stopping imperialism and the wanton violation of international rule (there isn’t technically any rule because international laws are non-binding but that is a different topic I won’t delve for now).
“Fucking legend”
“Well, I also was good at finding faults in anyone who were trying to improve some things and attack them for not improving all things.”
Absolutely hate the people who would sell out my child’s future over some holy war in the desert held by idiots—I mean religious zealots—terrorizing each other. They’re both wrong, don’t sell us out over it.
They’re both wrong
Those NICU babies bombed by the IDF shouldn’t have joined Hamas.
It’s comments like these that make non-americans like me pray for the fall of the American Empire. Seriously, you people don’t even see the people you murder overseas as human.
I don’t murder anyone. I don’t support either side of that conflict. I don’t like religious people very much. I’d cut support for Israel with the snap of my fingers if I could.
You look at a genocide being committed by your government that you support and say “I hate people who would oppose it”
Your argument would be better if the most powerful factions that oppose it weren’t genocidal themselves.
Whataboutism
When you think about it, this is really the fault of the Iranians for not submitting quietly to the Shah in 1979.
Everything after that was completely outside anyone’s control.
Not at all what that means but good try, you’ll be a debate bro yet.
Because they’re fine with us living in an authoritarian state (that is even less friendly to Palestine, btw) for the sake of it.
You had a better chance of stopping or slowing it if you didn’t let the other side take over our entire government, now Israel has a full pass. Your strategy backfired and made America worse for it.
Sometimes you have to know how to pick and choose your battles. Just like Oct 7 was a cowardly and incredibly stupid move of you truly wanted to end the apartheid state. Murdering people at a music festival was stupid. Maybe if you had fought the IDF in an actual war declared for independence you would’ve have a shit ton more support globally
See what I mean? You American’s are absurdly selfish; you’re fine committing genocide so long as you don’t have to live in an “authoritarian state” (I would argue that a state that is committing genocide regardless of how the people vote is already authoritarian, but as I said, you don’t consider foreigners humans)
Naturally a genocidal American like you thinks Palestinians should never fight back and just meekly be destroyed. You also disprove your own point by demonstrating that no matter what they do, you’ll always believe the propaganda from Israel: like how you think October 7th was just “Murdering people at a music festival”, when it involved attacking multiple military bases and killed hundreds of IDF soldiers (ending up with a far better civilian to soldier ratio than Israel ever does.)
In general, American’s have made it clear that they will never stop killing us by the thousands, and that the only thing that will end it is the collapse of your empire, so in that regard, I welcome anything that destabilizes the USA, and I’m certainly not going to feel sympathy for genocidal Americans getting a taste of what they do to us.
Idk, that seems like a pretty shit take to me. It’s not the voting choice I made, but I can see where people are coming from. It’s not just the US selling arms to hostile occupiers, it’s running around with the Cheney’s and the general abandonment of the working and middle class.
“Have you considered that it just wasn’t thrilling enough for me to vote against literal fascism?”
I’m still not sure what was the reason not to vote the lesser of two weevils here. Some hope that if you show Democrats by not voting them they’ll do the things those people have been calling for? I’d fear they’ll just think of those people as unreliable voters and will just try to get the votes from those who do vote.
Pretty risky move in any case, with Trump being the other alternative.
Idealism on the part of the true believers and not the Russian bots. I prefer realism but they are ultimately right, if everyone refused to support evil in any form it wouldn’t exist.
The problem being the average American loves the taste of boot so it’s not that it might not work, eventually, it’s that the world is out of time.
A part was something in the vein of “voting doesn’t work, bring back the guillotines”. I think they’re called “accelerationists” due to the belief that the current state of affairs can’t be fixed and only by violent revolution can society be rebuilt (in their imagine).
So, some people wanted Trump to win in order to have everything fail and justify blowing shit up.
Accelerationism refers to the idea of intentionally making capitalism the worst version of itself so that people have to revolt. It doesn’t work; it makes everything worse without accomplishing the end goal. Generally, the people making these arguments aren’t coming right out and saying they’re accelerationists, but they get there indirectly.
People won’t bring the revolution just because things are bad. You need class consciousness first.
Somehow I think pretty much none of those people are going to do jack and shit. Being a revolutionary is hardcore and I can respect that but only posting memes online is some Reddit ass slacktivism.
Being a revolutionary means you are willing to die for your cause. Ain’t none of those wannabes willing to die for anything. As long as they have their steam deck.
They just to cry to their mommies and expect the world to cater to their every want and whim. Life doesn’t work like that and never has.
Naw, it’s gonna be “What did you do during the genocide in Gaza?”
Bruh should I travel my gay white ass to Palestine and stand in front of a Merkava tank?
You can
- Join the BDS movement
- Donate to groups like A Jewish Voice for Peace
- Protest in your home country, if your home country is supporting Israel
- Lobby your politicians
Hey I was more aware of it than the last three (that I know of) in my lifetime.
“But daddy, mommy said all you did was circle jerk with strangers online”.
“Honey, you can’t circle jerk online. That’s why daddy has all his bros come over on Thursday.”
I like how both sides are constantly complaining about the erosion of free society and democracy but both sides also support questionable legislation.
One side is demonstrably worse in literally every political action/debate. I’m no Democrat but this both sides stuff has to stop if we’re ever going to make progress.
That’s only true if you believe one side. The Democrats have also repeatedly expanded surveillance just like the Republicans. There only seem to be a handful of congress people who are are concerned with privacy.
I’m more concerned with poverty than I am with the surveillance state. It’s already here and will never be rolled back. Things could still be done to alleviate poverty like universal healthcare, ubi, etc.
Those who would sacrifice a little liberty, for a little safety, deserve neither.
Sacrifice? It was fucking stolen, shot in the head, and thrown in the sea before anyone knew it was even happening.
Very good literature lesson you have there. Let’s live in the real world. What are you doing to roll back privacy erosion? Kids don’t even understand privacy. I have a nephew that uses his full legal name for everything he does online and will not stop, despite me talking to him about how stupid that is several times.
Privacy is over apart from the tools I’m sure you know about and use. Let’s focus on the big shit.
Well, I’m showing peeps how easy it is to move to tor browser, for more surfing. And if that’s too much, I show and help people install a decent browser plug-in collection.
Also, trying, again, to build a community owned mesh network.
And, getting more people to use signal and proton mail.
And, teaching stop the bleed classes, and organizing range days.
And, until recently, seeding community gardens and tool libraries.
So yes, you don’t need to sacrifice liberty for safety.
The NSA compromised the TOR network as long ago as 2013, it’s not anonymous.
Righteous. We should be friends.
